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Subject: Pipes Digest #272 -- November 8, 2000

		Pipes Digest #272 -- November 8, 2000
   Copyright (C) 2000 by Stephen P. Masticola. All rights reserved.
	       Commercial use of any part of contents,
	      including email addresses, is prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 3703

Welcome to new members:

	Eros Capraro
	Vince Mellens
	Rob Eisenpresser
	Kalle Talvenheimo
	Matt Faccenda
	Eric Medalis
	Michael Arcieri
	Gary B. Baker, Sr.
	Ernie Puskas
	Matteo Foini
	Richard Shumaker
	James O. Barter
	Doug Eckhoff
	Sal Sauco
	J. P. Pennyfeather
	Mike Enright
	Jay Denenberg
	Rune Olsen
	Tom Wolfe
	John Michael Robinson
	Manuel R. Janeiro Sarabia
	Linford Toy
	Mark M. Osowski
	S. K. Raker
	Scott W. Marshall
	Dallas Gambrell
	James Brigham
	Harold E. Owen
	Don Russell
	Daniel Mendelow
	Hesham A. Bahram
	Luciano Varaschini
	Stefan Melcher
	Randy Mitchell
	R. Judson Mitchell, Jr.
	Pierre Barblan
	Donald J. Tallman
	Nigel Albright
	Francesco Fiorentino
	Jim Logan
	Chris Fossan
	Klaas Chielens
	Lester C Harlow
	Xanthippe Svanstrom
	Alex O.
	Michael Wright
	Frank Castle
	Karl Kanthak
	Robert Judd
	George Baskett
	Lohanja
	Jack D. Silverstein
	Craig J. Willett
	Cameron S. Sloan
	W. R. Cook
	Greg Mohney
	Christian Probst
	Georgi Todorov
	David E. Pettry
	David Taylor
	Geoff Corey
	Michael Mcelwain
	Walter L. De Visser, Sr.
	Wannesmartens
	Jack Gardner
	Vagelis Chalkiadakis
	Jon A Crick
	Gary Croner
	Don Jarvie
	John M.
	Sandy Pangel
	Sitt Polcharoen
	Aaron Bennett
	Tony Sheppard
	David Everly
	Kyle Den Bak
	Craig Agule
	Michael Kwiecien
	David Squire
	Christopher Wolfe
	Guido N. Vacano
	Luis Bruges
	Steven Lhamon
	Allan Page
	Young-Sik Chung
	Stephen A. Swann
	Clare Carty
	Robert D Hisert
	Bob Woitas
	Sam Rosenthal
	John Siewertsen
	Mehmet Karagoz
	Jesse R. Adams
	Aaron Leggett
	Ben Harrison
	Richard Piatt
	Steven Curran
	Chris Clark
	Heinrich Botha
	Jeremy Knott
	Dave Crehore
	Vadim Kasperski
	Keith D. Knowlden
	John Merritt
	Robert A. Burket
	Mark Alan Hale
	Michael Stanley
	Steve W Goetz
	Richard Tipping
	Tony Berg
	Louis J. Ficchi
	Stanislav Zaharieski
	Jeff Brown
	Samuel Tobias Crowley
	Skip Oliver
	Nadav James Igra
	Italo Paini


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From: ?????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Dear Pipe Enthusiasts:

Those of you who do not know JT Cooke personally are probably aware of
his reputation as one of the finest pipemakers in the United
States. He is also an extraordinary human being whom many of us are
proud to call friend. And he is in trouble.

Jim has suffered from carpal tunnel syndrome in both of his hands for
several years, but over the last two years it has become increasingly
worse. He continues to carve pipes regardless of the pain, using
clumsy wrist braces to support his hands. Pipe making is all he knows,
so he has no choice--though I believe he would carve pipes even if
he had nothing but his teeth to do it with. He loves the craft and
would never give it up.

He has no insurance. He has lived economically his whole adult life in
a house he built himself, but even that is gone now. He is in the
middle of a divorce and has moved out to leave everything to his
wife. All he took with him are his tools.

He needs operations on both of his hands, and he needs to recuperate
for six weeks following the procedures, or he will risk undoing
whatever good the operations may do. The medical costs will be
approximately $7,000, but possibly more. He will also need living
expenses for the recuperation period. That second part is very
important--this is a man who will not sit idle when bills come due,
and in this situation he must. He estimates that if he can keep making
pipes he may be able to get his operations in 18 months to 2 years.

But I've been asking around, and the medical people I've spoken
with are aghast that someone with his symptoms is still working. He
risks losing his hands. If you know Jim, you know that there could be
nothing worse for him. We need to do something.

By "we," I mean the community of pipe smokers that extends like
a secret brotherhood through all professions, ages and
philosophies. We are truly a community, and one of our members needs
our assistance.

Therefore, I am asking for donations from pipe clubs, individuals,
retail shops, collectors, distributors, manufacturers--well, from
everyone. I have no doubt that together we can raise the necessary
funds in time to save Jim Cooke's hands.

We must use caution, however. Jim Cooke is a self-reliant man, and if
he knew we were doing this he would feel obligated to put a stop to
it. This is a man who would never consider asking anyone for help. We
must raise this money tactfully and with respect for Jim's feelings. I
think he will be touched and gratified to receive a surprise check,
but to know about it in advance would injure him. Please do not let
him find out.

Two pipe clubs--CORPS and TAPS--have already pledged substantial
amounts to be earned from their upcoming pipe shows. I hope that other
clubs will discuss this at their meetings and consider helping in any
way possible, and that individual smokers will spread the word and
donate what they can.

SpecComm International, the parent company of Pipes and tobaccos
magazine, has set up an account to receive contributions for Jim. The
company will absorb all administrative costs and fees. Every penny
donated will go to Jim. We will not be publishing any of this in the
magazine--it doesn't seem appropriate, and Jim would find out about it
that way. We are not trying to promote anything here but the need to
help a friend.

If you want to send pipes, we will auction them on eBay and place the
proceeds in the fund. Checks and money orders should be made out to
SpecComm International/JT Cooke. Pipes and money should be forwarded
to :

SpecComm International
JT Cooke Fund
3000 Highwoods Blvd., Suite 300
Raleigh, NC 27604-1029

The sooner we raise the money the sooner Jim can get better. I hope
that we can get it done by the beginning of next year.

Please help if you can. Forward this message to everyone you can think
of who may be interested. Feel free to write, or call me at
919.872.5040 if you have any questions or suggestions.

 And again, don't let Jim know what we're up to.

Best regards,
Chuck Stanion

[Chuck, Ben Irvin, and all others who sent this message: I wish you
every success in this wonderful effort to save the career of one of
our finest craftsmen. -S.]


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From: Vince Callaway <?????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #271 -- September 6, 2000

Could you make a couple of changes for me?

First off, change my address from ???????????????? to ??????????????
When I sold wa.net the permanent email address of ???????????? was
part of the sale.  The company has sold again and I don't know how
well they will honor that agreement.

Since I sold the company over 2 years ago we should probably change
the "hosted by" line at the bottom of the digest as well.  I've make
"freedomhound.com" my brand now and everthing ties back to that, so if
you would be so kind as to make that change.  You can use
"???????????????" as the contact email.

Thanks.

[All has been done, Vince. Please check the footer and let me know if
it looks OK. Thanks, as always, for your impeccable hosting! -S. ]


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From: Rick Berger <???????????????????????>
Subject: tobacco and the enlightenment

>From: ?????????????????
>Subject: Pipes, not often enough

>Steve(s)- I used to light my pipe in the office at 8 a.m. and
>smoke two pipefulls until 11:30, or so. It did wonders for my
>concentration. 

Funny you should mention that - I've been mulling around a notion
that perhaps might be worth an essay: the idea that perhaps the
enlightenment and all the good intellectual things that followed
may have been result of the discovery of tobacco.

Considering the astonishing pace of discovery after the 16th century,
it's not unreasonable to posit *some* sort of change in the environment.
The single most distinctive change I can think of - that is associated
with all the great thinkers from the 16th century on (when tobacco
became readily available around the world) - is tobacco. Portraits of
the great men in science, philosophy, and industry are almost always
depicted with a pipe or (in later times) a cigar.

The great minds smoked! (Good t-shirt/bumper sticker fodder, that.)

During the Apollo program, engineers were hardly ever without their
pipe close at hand. Remember, these were people who put men on
the moon with slide-rules.

I don't know if it can be attributed to the simple act of relaxed
contemplation that smoking a pipe or cigar (or possibly even a cigarette)
encourages, or if there is actually a chemical change to the brain that
increases the ability to concentrate (I know no one will conduct studies
to find out, and if they found out what they didn't want to know, we
wouldn't hear about it), but I think it is curious.

Of course, if it is true, eschewing tobacco wholesale is likely to return
humanity to the state of affairs prior to the enlightenment, isn't it?

regards,
your en*light*ened correspondent.

      rick berger

[Actually, I think studies have been conducted, and tobacco does
indeed aid concentration. -S. ]


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From: ??????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Steve and all you fellow pipe smokers-:

It's been a great summer and was able to go on several fishing
trips. Nancy and I went to northern Vancouver Island and did some
camping, canoeing, and caught all the the cutthroat trout we
wanted. We ate a few and released the rest. We were 50 miles into the
bush out of Port Alice and had a campsite on the lake with no one to
bother us. It was wonderful to sit around the campfire after a dinner
of fried cutthroat, have glass of Alberta Springs and ginger ale, and
smoke a pipe in peace. I took four pipes with me to include two
Charatan's, a Ben Wade, and an English egg that who knows made it. I
smoked Frog Morton on the Town in the Charatan's and Cafe supreame in
the other two. In Aug. I flew up to Anchorage and did some flying and
coho fishing with my brother. He has a flying service out of Merrill
Field and we went out flying everyday for a week. I took my two
Charatan's and my Dunhill #6 Bent shell, and the old pipe for the Cafe
S. I was able to catch and bring home 12 coho!  's and caught 20 or
more chums for every coho I caught. I broke one new Eagle Claw rod and
had to buy a new Ugly Stick which I really like.

School has started and I'm back at the grind so the only smoking I'm
getting done is in my old Volvo, driving home in the afternoon. I will
say that I'm seeing quite a few pipe smokers in their cars and give
them the high sign like I used to do when I had my Harley.

I'd forgot to mention that I bought a Burma Shave brush and some soap
and have been shaving with it and find it quite enjoyable. I grew my
beard back this summer but still use the shaving kit to do the trim
around the beard. Did I miss something on the pocket watches? I have
my Grandfathers' Elgin and a jewler found a 1860 date inside the
case. He said it was brought in then for a repair. My Dad knew he had
bought the watch 2nd hand so it really must be quite old. It has a
gold case and still keeps perfect time, if I do my part. I hope all is
well with everyone and look forward to everyones posts.

Good smoking...

Big John (mod 12)     

[Sounds like it was a  summer to make many readers envious! -S.]


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From: "Andrew Oakford" <?????????????????????????????>
Subject: sorry could only find the abstract


Institution
Office on Smoking and Health, Centers for Disease Control
and Prevention, Atlanta, Georgia 30341, USA.
Title
Pipe smoking in the United States,
1965-1991: prevalence and attributable
mortality.

Source
Preventive Medicine. 25(2):91-9, 1996 Mar-Apr.

Local Messages
Held at BMA Library

Abstract
BACKGROUND. National pipe-smoking prevalence data have rarely been 
reported, and mortality associated with pipe smoking has not been 
estimated. METHODS. We analyzed National Health Interview Survey data 
from 1965, 1966, 1970, 1987, and 1991 to estimate adult pipe-smoking 
prevalence in the United States. For each of these years, we estimated 
pipe smoking-attributable mortality from chronic obstructive pulmonary 
disease and cancers of the oral cavity, larynx, esophagus, and lung. 
RESULTS. From 1965 to 1991, the prevalence of current pipe smoking for 
men declined 12.1 percentage points (from 14.1% to 2.0%) while pipe 
smoking remained very uncommon among women. By 1991, pipe smoking was a 
behavior found primarily among men age 45 years or older. Most men who 
smoked pipes also used other tobacco products, especially cigarettes. 
About 830 deaths (range 720-2,495) in 1965 and 1,095 deaths (range 
655-2,820) in 1991 were attributable to pipe smoking. CONCLUSIONS. If 
current trends continue, pipe smoking will become extremely rare in the 
United States by the year 2000. Reasons for the decline in pipe smoking 
may include the lack of appeal of pipe smoking to women and adolescents 
or the increasingly unfavorable image of smoking behavior in general. 
Prevention and cessation efforts need to be directed against all forms 
of tobacco, including smokeless tobacco use, cigar smoking, and pipe 
smoking.


[Thanks for excavating this, Andrew. Sounds like a good cautionary
note that we are still in the sights of the antis, though not
particularly worth the forty bucks a copy. -S.]


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From: Peter Fackelmann <???????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #271 -- September 6, 2000

Replying to : "LTC John W. Perkowski" <?????????????????????????????>
Subject: Medical Journal Article on Pipe Smoking ?

The citation is:
Summary / Abstract
Title: Pipe Smoking in the United States, 1965--1991:Prevalence
and Attributable Mortality

Synopsis: PREVENTIVE MEDICINE 25 91 99 1996 ARTICLE NO 0033 LEAD
ARTICLE Pipe Smoking in the United States 1965 1991 Prevalence and
Attributable Mortality DAVID E NELSON M D M P H ,1,2 RONALD M DAVIS M D
JEFFREY...

Despite you not giving the URL I managed it,-)

http://www.cdc.gov/epo/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/lmrk131.htm

Smoking-Attributable Mortality and Years of Potential Life Lost --
- United States, 1984:

"Approximately 1000 deaths were attributable to pipe smoking in 1991 (11)."

But who knows the pipe smoker's population, to get a correlation?
1000 can be a lot considering the small elite,-) group of pipe smokers.

Is there a table like this?

		Cigarettes	Pipes	Total
Smokers		x		y	z
Killed early	xn		yn	zn
Percent		x%		y%	z%

Regards from Portugal

Peter


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From: Theodore Weis <?????????????????????>
Subject: Smoking and longevity

Dear Pipe Lovers,

I've decided to de-lurk for a moment and discuss a thread that I've seen
from time to time.  I am a physician and an intermittent pipe smoker for
(egad!) almost 50 years.  It seems to me there are two arguments here.
Pipe smokers, in at least one study, are said to live longer than non
smokers.  On the other hand, tobacco smoke in any form is bad for one's
health.  I believe both can be true.

In the well studied group of piople who have reversed heart disease with
"diet and lifestyle changes" a-la Dr. Ornish, the life-style changes are
held to be as important as the diet.  These changes are, essentially,
"Slow down, relax, meditate," and, of course, exercise.  I hold that
pipe smoking is, at least in part, a meditative experience.  In order to
be a successful long term piper, one must respect the pace of the pipe.
This can be learned, of course, but it is also a way of being that may
have made pipe smoking attractive to some in the first place.  In either
case it defines the population of pipe smokers as being perhaps
different from cigarette smokers or non smokers.

That smoking is harmful to health need hardly be argued.  Mouth and
tongue cancer take their toll, and we all breathe some of the fumes
whether we "inhale" or not.  If it is true that we tend to live long, it
may just be that the dangers of the smoke do not sufficiently overcome
the "meditation advantage" so as to show up in the statistics.  We would
probably live even longer if we puffed gently on an empty pipe, or found
some other way to calm ourselves.

The real issue here is, for me, not living long, but living well, and
the risks of the briar are well worth taking.

Ted Weis, M.D.


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From: Bosaiya <??????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #271 -- September 6, 2000

One of the readers of the 6 September mailing asked the following fine
question:

" I do have a question that I hope some of your contributors could
answer for me and that is, How do I prepare a tobacco such as
McClelland's Dark Star for smoking?  I loosened the flakes as best as
I could, but it seemed awkward trying to pack this tobacco in my pipe,
yet it smoked great and tasted fantastic."

I happen to smoke several varieties of flake almost exclusively, and find
them to be outstanding. Ashton's Black Parrot and Pebblecut are my
favorites.

It takes a little getting used to, but there are several ways to prepare
the tobacco. The more conventional way is to take a wad in your hands, and
rub them briskly together over paper. This will shred the tobacco into
small bits, which can be collected from the paper and inserted into the
pipe. If you're dextrous enough you can fold the paper a little and simply
pour it in.

The method I prefer is to take a few fingers-full, bend the lot in half,
and stuff them bent-end-down into the bowl. The exact amount you use will
have to be experminted with. Too little and there's too much air, too much
and you'll never get the pipe to stay lit. This method takes a little
longer to get going, but produces a much cooler smoke which takes an act
of Congress to die out prematurely. Enjoy!

Regards,

Bosaiya

 .....designs to knock you out.....
http://www.knockoutproductions.com


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From: ?????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Hello again.

As another "young pup" at age 22, I welcome Travis and agree with his
rant. Tarring all tobacco users with the same brush is absurd;
generalisations are a major tool of those who'd wish to take away our
freedoms. (I should restrain myself from getting too political here;
suffice it to say that I'm one of those pesky Libertarians...)

I have a question about pipe shape terminology for whoever can
answer-- does any bent bulldog pipe qualify as a Rhodesian, or are
there other considerations? I picked up an unsmoked pipe in such a
shape (with a tapered bakelite screw-in stem and the sole marking
"bakelite") at the local flea market. It smokes well, and has become
my official Erinmore pipe.  Someone had asked in a past Digest if
people had experiences with their opinion of different tobaccos
changed with time; I had such an experience with Erinmore Mixture. It
was the first tinned tobacco I tried, after deciding that the cherry
stuff I bought along with a Dr. Grabow on my 18th birthday just didn't
cut it. I smoked Erinmore exclusively for a few months, but for some
reason at one point it became cloying and seemed, although I cleaned
my pipes regularly and thoroughly, to be too gunky. It also started
giving me headaches, which had never happened before. I then eased
into the world of English mixtures and Virginias, and had a better
time of it. A few weeks ago, though, I picked up a tin of Erinmore for
the sake of seeing if the years of experience since I stopped smoking
it, scant though they were, made a difference. It apparently did, and
while I certainly don't smoke it exclusively it has a place in my
favorites again. Nonsmokers also welcome its presence; it seems to be
much better recieved than Balkan Sasieni or Dunhill 965.

The battle with the "antis" took a wierd turn recently; at a local
coffeeshop, a woman complained about my pipe smoke making it hard for
her to eat her health-fascist tofu sandwich; this would not be odd in
itself but for the fact that she was not only in the smoking section
at the time but accompanying said sandwich with a cigarette. (And for
the record, I wasn't even smoking a Latakia blend!)

Anyway, that's all for now.

Happy smoking.
--Tim


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From: ??????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

For the first time in history four of us Americans will be going to
the 2000 European Pipe Smoking Contest in Dijon, France, on 8
Oct. According to my friend Alain Letulier, France's pipe club
president, about 300 participants are expected.  In addition to pipe
encounters of all kinds, we intend to indulge in the gastronomic
pleasures of this cookingh capital of France and the surrounding
Burgundy vineyards.  Of course, a detour will be made to Saint-Claude,
France's pipe making center, where we'll see firsthand how briars are
turned and will be able to buy pipes at manufacturers' prices. Look
for an article early next year by yours truly recounting the delights
of this excursion either in PIPES AND TOBACCO or THE EPHEMERIS. Future
tours, including visits to major pipe emporiums in Paris and Lyon may
be planned.

Bob Page
Christopher Morley Pipe Club of Philadelphia

[Excellent!  We'll be looking forward to the article, wherever it
appears. -S.]


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From: "Bingyuang Hsiung" <?????????????????????????????????????????>
Subject: 

Dea Steve,    Thanks for putting together very interesting materials over
the years.  This year I am spending my sabbatical at Oxford University and
would very much like to know if there is any pipe smoker in the area.  Can
your system make an automatic check about the em addresses of the
subscribers?
-------------------------
Bingyuang Hsiung
Professor

[Sadly, we have no members from Oxford. However, I hope that someone
there will read this article and get in contact with you. -S.]


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From: Nicholas Vigliucci <??????????????????>
Subject: for your next issue

The Pipe Tobacco that was advertised in Pipes and Tobacco called "Piatro 
& Lee" are no longer in business.

A new company will soon be in place selling the same formula but under a 
new name.

If you have any questions please call 317-872-7947 for details.

Nicholas P. Vigliucci
President of Piatro and Lee Tobacco Company


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From: ???????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Anyone living in San Diego, CA probably already knows about Racine &
Laramie in Old Town, but I think it bears mentioning.  It's actually a
museum and pipe/cigar/tobacco store.  It was built in 1868, and was
San Diego's first cigar store.  It burned down, and was subsequently
rebuilt in 1872.  They have really yummy aromatic blends.  It doesn't
have a web page as far as I know, but I found the following links to
pages that talk about it:

http://www.sandiegohistory.org/links/oldtown.htm
http://www.wethesmokers.com/ (look in the "History" link on the home page).

Stop by if you're in the area.  Here's the address:

Racine & Laramie
2737 San Diego Ave
San Diego, CA 92110
(Old Town San Diego State Historic Park).

(619) 291-7833

[Excellent, a historic tobacco store! -S.]


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From: Ted Willi <?????????????????>
Subject: smoking at a ripe old age

Dear Steve and Members of the List,

Thanks for the new issue. Lots of good reading. I'm glad to be a new
subscriber to Pipes Digest.

My own taste runs (I'm not ashamed to say) along the lines of what Van
Adams wrote in PD210: "a corn cob and a bowl of Half and Half is a great
smoke!!!"

My interest in pipes was something that my Uncle Al and I shared over the
course of years and it was the topic of much of our correspondence. When
my Uncle passed away recently, I smoked a bowl of tobacco in his memory
and I felt as though I had managed to commune with him through the smoke.
This is the kind of satisfaction, I would guess, that the Native Americans
derived from their ritualistic use of tobacco.

I am thinking about this now because I would like to share the story of my
Uncle and how, as he had gotten older and was encouraged to move into a
senior's apartment complex, he was told that he could no longer smoke his
pipe. I suppose that his children and his doctor put pressure on him to
quit out of all the usual "practical" reasons, but the pipe was one of his
joys and to quit smoking at age 80+ did not improve his health so much as
it hurt his state of mind.

My point is that there seems to be a point of diminishing returns wherein
it makes little sense to change a person's smoking habits at an advanced
age on purely "practical" terms. Persons are much more complex than that;
and if the component of joy is factored-in as a necessary human virtue,
then allowing someone to continue with their pipe smoking in their ripe
old age is not asking too much.

Humbly submitted,

Ted Willi


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From: ?????????????????? (Heinz Gunia)
Subject: Pipeshows and Dunhill OD

Hello Steve,
hello to all members!

It would be great to get some informations from you concerning
pipeshows.  In the US pipeshows are more or less a usual happening. In
Germany there hasn't been such a show until now. Now there are
intentions to organize a pipeshow like the ones in the US. Can somedy
give us pipeshowbabys some advice how to handle such a happening? What
are the exact contents of these shows? Is there usually a special
program? Thank you all!

I've got another point to ask the collectors of Dunhills among
you. I got a nice Dunhill OD (Oversized), built in the 70's in
Shell Briar Finish. The pipe has never been smoked. If anybody is
interested in the pipe, please mail me.  The price: 800,- DM (+ costs
of shipment)

Best regards

Heinz Gunia
Essen
Germany


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From: ??????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Steve -

Thanks for an outstanding forum for us pipe smokers. Your labors are
very much appreciated.

It's been a while, so I thought I would post this question again. I
have not received any responses to my previous posts.

Can anyone provide me any information on an American pipe carver that
signed his pipes "Micoli". The pipes are freehands, typically quite
unusual in style. I have heard so many rumors and unsubstantiated
statements about "micoli" that I want to determine what the truth is.

On another note, anyone interested in some great pipes at very
attractive prices should take a look at Horace DeJarnett's web site
(wwww.dejarpipes.com). Horace is a true craftsman and the pipes are
fantastic smokers.

Matthew

[I've heard the name, but don't know about them myself. But keep
asking and a Micoli expert is bound to turn up sooner or later. -S.]


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From: ?????????????????????????????????
Subject: Knocking the plug loose in the bowl

I agree with Joshua Sasmor and Alan Schwanitz regarding the effects of
loosening the "plug" of tobacco in the bowl by firmly knocking the
bowl (or in Alan's case dropping it).  My technique is to hold the
bowl firmly in my left hand while I use my knuckles to knock on the
side of the bowl with my right hand.  Once I see that the plug has
moved, I relight and smoke on.  I do this because I find that about
half to two thirds of the way down the bowl, the plug has become a bit
tight from tamping and relighting.  This causes less air to get in and
around the plug.  By knocking the plug loose, I get more air in and
around the plug causing a better and more thorough burn to the bottom.

Thanks
ART

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From: ???????????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #271 -- September 6, 2000

>Has anybody changed his opinion of a blend over time? Also,
>has anybody come to like a blend that at first seemed bad?
>If so, how come?

Yes.  I have a tin of Three Nuns which at first I wasn't sure I liked.
Someone recommended that I smoke it with the discs stacked in the bowl
of my pipe and I always found myself putting the pipe down after 2/3
of a bowl.  After half the tin this way, I began shredding the discs
on a whim.  BIG DIFFERENCE.  I love it now, where as before, I kept
asking myself, 'why does everyone seem to love this tobacco so?'  I
told the guy at the local tobacconist about stacking the discs and he
laughed and said 'you could smoke a bowl for four days that way".

Best Regards,
Everett Jacobson


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From: ???????????????????????
Subject: Cherry tobacco

Just for a point of reference, I smoke Pirate Kake almost excusively
these days.

However, in the fall, I get the irresistable urge to buy and smoke a
pouch of cherry tobacco, and I love it! Been practicing this custom
this ever since that autumn 17 years ago when bought my first pipe and
pouch of tobacco--it was cherry.  Just broke open a pouch of Borkum
Riff and had my first cherry smoke of the season a few minutes
ago. Nice... The Pirate Kake will graciously wait for me to return to
my senses in a few weeks.

Russ Stutler
-----------------------------------------------
Free & Easy!  Love, Peace, Email   http://JMAIL.CO.JP


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From: "John Martin" <????????????????????>
Subject: "Women Pipesmokers" Captain Black Pipes & Canadians?

One & All,

I was intrigued by diomed's offence at tabacconists, Richard Hacker etc... 
assuming that "women pipesmokers" would prefer a smaller lighter pipe.  I 
have often wondered why female pipesmokers are even rarer than their male 
counterparts.  My working hypothesis is that most women feel that having a 
bulky pipe near to their face as being unacceptably unattractive.  Thus I 
would assume that relatively small size & graceful appearance would be very 
desirable for a pipe that a women would choose to smoke in public.  
Appearance would matter less the woman who chooses to smoke primarily in the 
privacy of her home.  Comments ladies & gentlemen?

On a more materialistic note, I used the loss of my beloved thickwall 
billiard in Saigon as an excuse to order a Captain Black pipe.  I have been 
intrigued by sandblasts & Canadians so I ordered the Captain Black Yeoman 
(the sandblast) in the Canadian shape.  I was pleasantly surprised by the 
result.  I have always assumed that sandblasts were much less attractive 
than smoothes, but I really like the way that the Yeoman looks.  The 
sandblast finish shows the wood's grain in topographical relief, 
highlighting the grain.  The rough texture makes the pipe pleasant to hold, 
important as I always hold my pipes in my hand as I smoke.  It also seems to 
smoke well.  It is hard to tell how cool it smokes as I have recently 
started smoking Frog Morton and only smoke Frog in the Yeoman.  It is my 
impression that Frog Morton smokes hotter than my usual tobaks.  I am a very 
cheap man and the Yeoman is an excellent value at $20.  I like it so well 
that I have decided to order the other two finishes the Senteniel & Helmsman 
in the Canadian shape.  Then I may have to call them the three eh-migos :^]. 
  At that time I may smoke Captain Black Gold in one and develope a more 
accurate impression of how they compare to my usual pipe.

Speaking of Canadians, could one of our more learned bretheren enlighten me 
as to the origin of this shape?  Why is it called a Canadian?  Is it because 
the shape originated in Canada?  Or did it become the dominant shape in that 
country?  Does it have any properties that endear it to Canadian pipe 
smokers except for its somewhat unusual appearance?  Inquiring minds want to 
know!!!

Sit Back, Relax & Enjoy the Pipe,

John E. Martin

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From: "Robert A. Uhl" <????????????>
Subject: Women Pipesmokers

I'd just like to reply to diomed's comment in re. women pipesmokers and
men.

I imagine that manufacturers make the small pipes because they
sell--someone mus tbe buying them.  Women's watches are smaller too, not
out of any sexist reason, but because women tend to be smaller.  I
imagine most taller women buy men's watches, if they fit better.

The `last bastion thing' is not so much that we men think ours is the
better or the only acceptable way of doing things, but because we'd like
to have something to ourselves, just once.  There is nothing in the
modern world which we can have as our own.  It's sad.  There's nothing
wrong with women having their own clubs; can we not have ours?
Sometimes people need to seperate themselves from the general populace.
Sometimes it's done by religion, others by interest, others by sex.  It
fills, I imagine, a basic need.

That said, I'm quite welcoming to any woman who'd like to try a pipe.
Don't think that it's quite ladylike, but that's none of my business.
I'm just happy to have another pipesmoker in the world.

-- 
Robert Uhl <????????????>

There's only so many cookies one can pull out of a floppy drive before
losing faith in mankind.


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From: gcampbell <????????????????????>
Subject: pipe smoking

Question, when breaking in new pipes, how
long does it take before the pipe is seasoned
enough to smoke well.  I know it depends on
how often the pipe is smoked.  Any idea as to
how many bowls?

[With me, usually 5 or 10. But I don't count. Just one day I light up
and say, "hmmmm, that's smoking good today!" -S.]


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From: "Tarek Manadily" <????????????????????????>
Subject: A new site is born

Hello Steve,

I hope this finds you and all fellow pipe smokers in good health and mood.

I'm writing this to inform you that since I left Synjeco, I have managed to
start my own business and to launch a brand new site.

My site " www.theitalianpipe.com " is devoted solely to high grade, hand
made Italian pipes; I do not intend to sell tobaccos (though my tobacco
reviews are available) or accessories.

Though I started with 8 major brands, I intend to expand my assortment with
time, allowing choosing the best of the best.

I'm always at your disposal for any comments, questions, etc.

Happy Pipe Smoking,

Tarek
 .........................................................
Home of the High Grade Italian Pipes:
http://www.theitalianpipe.com/
 .........................................................

[Thanks, Tarek! -S.]


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From: mauricio esqueda <???????????????????????>


Steve:  hello, my name is Mauricio, I have always been fascinated by
pipes, ever since I watched my grandfather smoked his.  I bought a
Stanwell and picked up pipe smoking about one month ago, I have never
smoked cigarretes and have smoked cigars sometimes (although they are not
as stylish as pipes), and so have been looking for some "tips" from the
experts.  Everythings seems to go fine, only one question, when you smoke
a pipe is it like a cigarrete in the sense that you inhale the smoke, or
is it more like a cigar that you don't inhale the smoke?  I hope that you
can help me out with this, thanks a lot and regards   

-- 
Mauricio Esqueda 


[Most pipe smokers don't inhale on purpose. Personally, I inhale once
in a while, but very infrequently. -S.]

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From: "Mattozzi" <??????????????????????>
Subject: Pipes

    Dear Steve ,, I 've recently started smoking a pipe and 
unfortunately, I didn't read your article prior purchasing a pipe. I 
noticed you didn't mention the "Dr. Garbow " brand of pipe. It's 
definitely at the low-end of the ladder however, I have found it 
somewhat pleasurable. Also , any more info on packing the pipe to keep 
it lit would be appreciated.          

                                         Thanks,
                   
                                           Mark
                                         in Indianapolis

[Don't worry, Mark. The omission of Grabows from the article was just
part of a conspiracy by the Tri-Lateral Commission and the Illuminati
to conceal the existence of the extraterrestrials. They are about six
inches long, covered with a lacquer-like substance, and are drawn by
the aroma of Captain Black packages to gather in drugstores. ;-) -S.]


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From: ?????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I really don't know if this is the right place to come but I'll try.
My grandmother's husband past away about a year ago and he was a pipe
collector.  She has five Ben Wade cigars and is wanting to sell them.
She is also wanting an estimate on how much they are worth as well.
If anyone thinks they can help or is interested in purchasing them,
please email me @ ??????????????????  She lives in another state and
does not have a computer, but if anyone is interested, they can email
me and I'll give her phone number out.  Thanks

[I doubt that they're very valuable, but I could be wrong. -S.]


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From: ???????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

    I have found an interesting Meerschaum pipe. It is rather large 1
    3/4" across the top of the bowl,2 3/4" high (bottom to top of
    bowl.. There is a bust of a person carved in relief on the front
    of the bowl.  There is a sterling sliver band where the mouthpiece
    connects that is inscribed "Jno. R. Weeks". The leather covered
    wooden case is lined with material and has a gold stamp
    "Kaldenberg & Sons, Meerschaum Manufacturers, 6 John St. New York.

    I was hoping to find out how old this pipe might be and if I could
    find a mouthpiece that would be appropiate for pipe?  Would it be
    likely that the bust carved on the pipe be "Mr Weeks"?

    I  would appreciate any info regarding this item.

      Thanks
                Bob Judd  


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From: ????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I am giving up pipe smoking and am selling my collection.  Pipes
include some Dunhills, Upshalls, Pre-Trans Barlings, Savinelli's,
Peterson's, Freehand Danish and a few meerschaums, among others.  If
you are interested, please email me for a more comprehensive list.
Thanks, Tom


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From: Douglas Cope <????????????????>
Subject: PD Resource Guide change please

Hi Steve,

While browsing the pipes digest resource guide, I noticed that the 
info for the Toronto Pipe Club is out of date.

Please change the info listed to reflect the following:

Toronto Pipe Club
Meets the second Saturday of each month, 2 - 4 pm
Contact: Ian Belton (905) 857-6108 (????????????????????)
Subscribe to our mailing list: ?????????????????????????????????
Meeting locations vary and are announced via the mailing list

Thanks!

Doug Cope

[Done. Thanks for the update! -S.]


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From: "J. Gregory Scheppers" <????????????????????>
Subject: Jobey Sunburst Pipe

Dear Steve,

I was wondering if you might be able to point me to an online resource 
or retailer of Jobey pipes.  I have a Jobey Sunburst 1/4 bent bulldog 
that out smokes all of my other pipes.  This was a fifty dollar pipe 
that I picked up from a local shop here in St. Louis and it is hands 
down the best pipe I have ever owned.  Cheap, lightweight and has smoked 
cool and dry from the first bowl.  I know some might consider my next 
statement as pipe smoking heresy but my Jobey smokes better than both of 
my Les Woods.  I have tried the commercial search engines and have not 
had much luck finding Jobey retailers.  Is there any way to find out who 
imports them and/or get a catalog directly from Jobey?  Any help would 
be appreciated.

Thanks,
Greg Scheppers.


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From: ?????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Hi, Steve,

I've just subscribed, but, because I'm still new user, I'm not sure
what I did. So, here comes my question:

In Pipes Digest Article 221.034 (from Lech Kovalevski) you mentioned
thi name of Italian company: Seghiere In Maremma, owned by Fanis
Cresci. Could you, please let me now their adress and fax number, if
you have this infomation? I've started making pipes about six months
ago and now I'm interested in importing briarwood blocks in Bulgaria
or Czech Republic (well, not 10 000 pcs).

Thank you in advance for your time!
 Nice puffing:
Georgi


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From: "Joseph W. Bowman" <??????????????????>
Subject: 10th anniversary

Hello Steve,

Just wanted to light my favourite Blatter & Blatter
pipe (the first pipe I ever bought) in salute to my
10th anniversary as a pipe smoker.  I started smoking
a pipe in September 1990, at the age of 22, when I
began my second undergraduate degree.  I was living in
Montreal at the time and had wanted to try out a pipe
for some year previous.

Although I'm sorry I waited until I was 22, I'm very
lucky to have had such great "tutors" as the Blatter
brothers in Montreal.

Now, 10 years later, as I enter a new phase of my
life, attending seminary to enter ordained ministry, I
can only say that sitting with a book in one hand and
my pipe in my mouth... life is pretty dandy, thanks be
to God!

Cheers,

Joseph

====

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From: Christopher Brown <????????????????????> 
Subject: Perique tobacco

Dear Pipe Smoker Friends:  Please allow me to introduce myself and my
small company.  I am a botanist by training, and my partner is an
anthropologist and epidemiologist.  Together we have formed Nichols &
Brown, Ltd. to promote the cultivation and use of real Louisiana
Perique, which is almost extinct.  At the present time there is only one
full-time farmer still growing and processing Perique the traditional
way, Mr. Percy Martin, of Grande Pointe Ridge.  Two of Mr. Percy's
neighbors grow a little tobacco, too, but they both have day jobs. Total
production is barely 5,000 lbs. a year, sometimes considerably less in
bad years, as 1998 and 1999 were. The harvest this year, 2000, was
better.

Anyway, those of you interested in the history of Perique tobacco are
invited to check out our web page, www.perique.com.  We have articles
from old publications on the history of Perique, as well as an update
explaining the present situation.  We also have a series of slides
showing the details of growing and processing Perique at Percy Martin
Farms.

We mainly sell wholesale, but we are actively working to develop retail
outlets for genuine Perique.  We hope that within a few months small
vacuum-sealed tins of pre-cut genuine Perique will be available in
stores. At the present time the bulk of the stock of genuine Louisiana
Perique is being sold to the Santa Fe Natural Tobacco Company, for use
in their American Spirit Perique blend hand rolling tobacco and
cigarettes.  This is a new product on the market.  We also sell some
Perique directly to pipe smoking aficionados and clubs for local
distribution and sale at shows.  Finally, there is a new line of premium
cigars, blended with genuine Perique, which is about to enter the
market, under the name of "Le Roi de St. James".  All this new activity
is very good news for ensuring the future of Perique cultivation in St.
James Parish, Louisiana, which until recently was nearly extinct.

We ourselves do not grow any tobacco, except for helping out on the
farm. We are essentially agents for the farmer, representing him and
promoting this unique product, the world's rarest tobacco.  We invite
you to visit our web page and learn more about the legendary Louisiana
Perique.

				Sincerely,
                                 Christopher Brown, Partner
                                 Nichols & Brown, Ltd.


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From: Peter Sims <?????????????????????>
Subject: Perique Tobacco

	Well, a funny thing happened on the way to my ideal blend.

	A few months ago, I noticed a thread on a.s.p questioning 
whether it was appropriate for tobacco sold as "Perique" to be 
peppery on the tongue.  For about a year I had been juggling tobaccos 
in my personal blend to get rid of a peppery feel on the tongue. 
Since my blend includes Perique, the a.s.p query got my attention big 
time.

	I first smoked pipes regularly in the late 50's.  It didn't 
seem exceptional then but, looking back, I now realize that it was a 
very good period for pipe smoking.  In N.Y.C. there was a Peterson's 
pipe store on 42nd Street across from Grand Central Station, a Wally 
Frank (everyman's pipe store) on Madison at 44th Street, and the 
Wilke shop at 48th and Madison.

	I then worked on East 57th St. and got to Wilke most often. 
They sold fine handmade natural-finish pipes (I still have one that's 
among my favorites) and a variety of house tobacco blends.  They also 
sold straight tobaccos for personal blending.  I bought many tobaccos 
there, including Latakia, Yenidje, and Perique.  Yenidje is just 
about impossible to get in the U.S., except as part of the all-strain 
Turkish - too bad.  Perique is still around but almost as hard to get.

	First, definitions:  All that I've seen identify Perique as a 
rare tobacco grown only in St. James Parish, La.  It is grown and 
processed in a unique manner that includes subjecting it to pressure 
in vats and allowing it to age in its own juices.  The excess juice 
is discarded and along with it some of the nicotine, resulting in a 
soft, sweet, pungent smoke, with almost zero bite.  It's said that 
the process originated with Native Americans, who, in the mid 1700's, 
taught it to an Acadian, Pierre Chenet, in honor of whom the tobacco 
is named Perique.

	So what's with the pepper tongue discussed in the a.s.p. 
thread?  Well, it turns out that almost all of the tobacco sold today 
as Perique would not fit the stated definition.  Instead, whenever 
anyone bothers to identify it properly, it's something called 
"Kentucky Green River Perique".

	At least once, a clear public statement was made.  In a 
February 28, 1999, Times-Picayune article, Associated Press writer, 
Peter Zachariadis, describes the operation of one Mr. Raymond Poche. 
(This is a long post, so I didn't include a copy of the article. 
I'll be pleased to email it to anyone who's interested.)  Mr. Poche 
admits that he uses Kentucky Green River tobacco and processes it in 
the manner of Perique.  He claims that some actual Perique is added. 
Some believe that he also adds a preservative to prevent mold 
(supposedly a problem with real Perique, though I've refrigerated 
some in a ZipLoc bag for a couple of months - with no sign of mold). 
Mr. Poche also blithely states that, "no one uses pure perique 
anymore."

	IMHO, there's the rub.  How can anybody use pure Perique if 
something else is sold when Perique is requested?  Only a false 
conclusion can be reached by a smoker who decides whether [s]he likes 
Perique without having smoked real Perique.

	Obviously, this gets me a bit agitated.  But that's because 
I'm used to the fair-trade rules that require "Swiss-style" cheese to 
be distinguished from Switzerland Swiss.  Mocha-style coffee is 
distinguished from Mocha, which comes only from Yemen.  With all the 
many hot sauces on the market, nobody disputes that Tabasco comes 
only from Avery Island, LA.  That's what Apellation Controlee and 
Apellation d'Origine are all about.

	Yet, without a by-your-leave, the tobacco industry have 
decided (a la former U.S.S.R.) to revise history, bury pure Perique, 
and foist upon us a more-convenient, ersatz product.

	In fairness to them, they probably curved a vacuum to their 
advantage.  The Perique process is labor- and time-intensive.  The 
St. James farmers have been diminishing in number.  If there is no 
genuine product, we all appreciate an acceptable approximation.  But 
that is not the case; the genuine product is available.  Also, it's 
probable that the passage of time has drastically reduced the number 
of smokers who have an inkling of what true Perique is.  As stated, I 
became acquainted with Perique 40+ years ago (there are a few 
advantages to being old).

	So, Lord love the Internet and the two Steves of pipes.org. 
Without them I would be a single, small voice of protest.  With them, 
now you know!

	As also stated above, I juggled my personal blend for about a 
year to get rid of the peppery feel.  Having smoked pure Perique, it 
never occurred to me that the problem was caused by what was sold to 
me as Perique.  The a.s.p. thread caused me to do some research and I 
came across Nichols & Brown, Ltd., Purveyors of 100% Genuine 
Louisiana Perique Tobacco, P.O. Box 58906, New Orleans, Louisiana 
70158-8906, phone 504-866-8625, fax 504-866-8626, web site: 
www.perique.com.

	Incidentally, Nichols claims that it purchases all of the 
pure Perique produced in St. James Parish, which at least raises a 
question about Poche's claim that his blend contains genuine Perique.

	I don't work for Nichols.  As a result of my inquiries, I 
received some free samples.  They would be nowhere near enough for me 
to take up the cudgel.  My position is probably best defined by 
paraphrasing Senator Bentsen.  I know St. James Perique, St. James 
Perique is a friend of mine, and Kentucky Green River Perique is not 
Perique.  If I have an ulterior motive, it is to assure the ongoing 
availability of pure Perique.  Hopefully, if there is enough demand, 
the St. James farmers will be encouraged to continue production and 
actively assert their rights to the name Perique.

	Also, if you've never smoked the real thing, then, perhaps, I 
will have delivered some pleasure to you.

	Dry ashes!
-- 
Peter Sims
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From: ?????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Dear Steve and members of the coterie......I wanted to share some
information that may be of use to others of you in the pipe smoking
world! I recently was diagnosed with Diabetes Type 2! Shortly
thereafter I noticed that my old standbyes weren't so flavorful
anymore!!! Being basically a smoker of aromatics I began a frantic
search for more and more flavor. I tried friends....Marty
Pulver's....Ed Kolpin.....Jimmy at Gus's Pipe Shop......etc. Finally I
went for help to the master..Craig Tarler!!! We went through everym
blend he could think of...and I couldn't really taste much difference!
I was feeling really bad...since I love the flavor of my Tobaks...and
I love smoking.....have for many years! Finally from asking and
reading and the internet and the pipe digest....and especially
Craig....I discovered BCA from Lane Ltd.!!! I started blending it with
all my other stuff which now had no taste, and shazam...suddenly
delicious flavor returned! I was thrilled and started blending !

varying amounts of BCA with all my old faves/now rejects.....and am
now enjoying them all again! I use it wisely...usually one quarter BCA
to three quarters of the old standbye! What a pleasure! I owe the
knowledge mostly to Craig Tarler...who then went on to recommend me to
his friend who carried BCA in stock in large or small amounts at a
very attracitive and affordable price! Craig recommended it...but I
had to try it elsewhere first.because he doesn't stock it! When it
worked he was as delighted as I was...as a friend he wasn't worrying
about any profit...just to help! He recommended me to a good friend of
his....and now one of mine! He sold me all the BCA I needed....at a
terrific price, that rivaled any on the net!!! I wanted to tell all
about this...in case any of you have a sudden onset of Diabetes or a
change of taste....and need help....try BCA (black cavendish
adulterated)...laced with Vanilla as near as I can ascertain! Here is
his info for the resource guide and use of any members who need help
along these lines from an honest nice guy! (I am not in business, nor
do I profit from anyone mentioned in this letter)...this stuff is from
the heart for my buddies in the pipe community! Here
goes.......address is......W.L. De Visser.....63165 CR
380.....Bangor,MI 49013. His phone number
is....(616)427-7543.....e-mail ???????????????????????? (DeVisser,
Walter, Sr.).....his website URL
is....http://www.blackrivercigarcompany.com !!!!!

Hope this info will be put in your resource guide, and will help
others like me!  Continued success to all.....smoke in peace! Regards
and congratulations for your fine work as usual Steve......thanks for
all your hard work!!!  Lennie Weinrib and
family....Santiago......Chile.....South America.

[I've put it in the Guide, Lennie. Thanks! -S.]


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From: ????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I was pipe cleaning the stem of my Peterson Killarney 1/4 bend Bulldog
(an excellent, low-end priced smoker), and a piece of the pipe cleaner
broke off and lodged into my stem.  It can be barely be seen from the
lip end but it is so tightly lodged I have been unable to remove it.
Any suggestions?  Thanks in advance for your response.

R. Hogue
(????????????????????)

(Have you tried a very fine pair of needle-nosed pliers?  Soaking the
stem in some vegetable oil might also persuade the cleaner to be
pulled out a little more easily. Failing that, you may have to get the
stem replaced, unless someone else can come up with a better trick. -S.]


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From: "Griffin Family" <???????????????????>
Subject: locating store

i am lokking for away to contact g.smith&son in london england, Can you 
help me with an e-mail adress or web site?


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From: (no address given)
Subject: comment from pipes page

Dear Steve,

  I'm a new member, as you know, and first off I would like to tell
you that this is a most wonderful site! Keep up the excellent work! I
have perused these letters all the way back to the first one! Many,
many, enjoyable hours of reading has been spent here! I have of recent
become a pipe smoker (2 months ago) and am soooo happy with this
hobby! My name is Jon, I'm 49 yrs. old and live in the Rosamond
California.  Talk about NOOOO pipe or tobacco shops nearby!!!! I use
the internet to purchase my various selections of tobacco. I smoked
cigarettes for 20 years, until 1988 when I had a heart attack and
bypass heart surgery. I had quit smoking cigarettes, pipe and cigars 3
months prior to this surgery! Go figure! Well, to make a lond story
short, I've had 2 more heart attacks, another open heart surgery, 2
stent operations on my arteries, last was 3-2000. I now smoke my
pipe(dearly love it)and will do so untill I depart from this world! I
have purchased several tobaccos that were all too moist, almost
unsmokable. I almost gave it up! Then I decided to (dry out) put the
whole tin of tobacco on a flat pan to disapate some moisture.  WOW!!!
What a difference, I LOVED IT!!!! Hope this helps some other new pipe
smokers to alleviate a bad burning tobacco! Hope all of you fellow
"friends of the pipe" enjoy ALL of your smokes! Down with the [Spaf's
Law violation deleted. -S.]  smoking police!!! Enjoy your pipes!

                       Your friend, Jon S. Cone

P.S Thanks Steve for putting me on the list. 


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From: Philip Borgnes <??????????????????????>
Subject: Tobbaco in USA

Hello Steve,

I came accross this interesting page on types of tobacco found in the USA
which other readers might find interesting too. This page is part of an
agricultural extesion program in North Carolina. It states that tobacco is
grown in 21 states and includes a map of where the production centers are.
There is also a list of different kinds of tobacco and where they're grown: 

Flue-cured
---------------
(40% of world tobacco production) 
Flue-cured is also known as "Bright" and "Virginia" by the world trade. It
is used almost entirely in cigarette blends. Some of the heavier leaves may
be used in mixtures for pipe smoking. Some English cigarettes are 100%
flue-cured. 

Flue-cured leaf is characterized by a high sugar: nitrogen ratio. This ratio
is enhanced by the picking of the leaf in an advanced stage of ripeness, and
by the unique curing process which allows certain chemical changes to occur
in the leaf. 

Cured leaves vary from lemon to orange to mahogany in color. The leaves are
relatively large with the largest at midstalk. A well grown plant will be
topped at a height of 39 to 51 inches with 18-22 harvestable leaves. Yields
average around 2200 lbs/A with some in excess of 3000 lbs/A. The leaves are
harvested as they mature from the ground up. 

Flue-cured tobacco is grown in approximately 75 countries from New Zealand
to Germany. Major producers in the world are: China, USA, Brazil, India and
Zimbabwe. The major exporters are the U.S., Brazil, India and Zimbabwe. 

Flue-cured is grown in six states in the U.S. - Virginia, North Carolina,
South Carolina, Georgia and Florida. A very small amount is in Alabama. 

Burley
---------------
(11% of world production) 
Burley is light air-cured type derived from the White Burley which arose as
a mutant on a farm in Ohio in 1864. Burley is used primarily in cigarette
blends. Some of the heavier leaf is sued in pipe blends and also for
chewing. 

Cured burley leaf is characterized by low sugar content and a very low sugar
to nitrogen ratio (high nicotine). This is enhanced by high N. fertilizer,
harvesting at an early stage of senescence, and the air curing process which
allows oxidation of any sugars which may have occurred. Burley has a
tremendous capacity to absorb flavorings (25% of its own weight vs. 7-8% for
flue-cured). 

Cured leaves vary in color from light tan to reddish and brown. The leaf
should be without yellow patches or fringes. 

Crops in the field are light green in color. This is particularly true for
the midrib and stalk which are creamy- white. The leaves are slightly larger
than flue-cured and the plants are generally taller. A typical plant is
topped at 20-30 leaves. Average yields are 2500-3000 lbs/A and the plants
are stalk cut. The leaves are stripped after curing. 

Burley is produced in around 55 countries but only a small amounts in over
1/2 of these. The main producers and trades are the U.S., Italy, Korea,
Brazil, and Mexico. In the U.S. production is in Kentucky, Tennessee, Ohio,
Virginia, North Carolina, West Virginia and Missouri. 

Maryland
---------------
Maryland is another light air-cured type. It is used to some extent in
American blended cigarettes and to a greater extent in certain Swiss
cigarette blends. 

Maryland tobacco is extremely fluffy, has good burning properties, low
nicotine, and neutral aroma. An example of this lightness: a hoghead of
redried burley or flue-cured may weigh 800 lobs but the same hoghead will
only contain 600 lbs of Maryland. 

Maryland tobacco is upright and large leaved like burley but is darker green
without the creamy midveins. Yields are slightly less than flue-cured. The
tobacco is stalk cut and air-cured like burley. The cured leaf is various
shades of brown with yellow and green colors being highly undesirable. 

Total world production is small and is confined to the U.S. and Italy; and
is generally declining. 

In the U.S., production is in five Maryland counties around Washington, D.
C. 

Dark air-cured
---------------
(20% of world production) 

The dark air-cured term encompasses a number of types used mainly for
chewing, snuff, cigar, and pipe blends. Most of the world production is
confined to the tropics. 

In the U.S. dark air-cured tobacco is produced in Kentucky, Tennessee and
Virginia: three types are one-sucker, Green River and Virginia sun-cured.
These are heavy type leaves, highly fertilized and topped low to around
10-12 leaves. Dark air-cured leaf is high in nicotine and used in chewing
and snuff and some pipe mixtures. The plants are stalk cut. 

Cigar wrapper, binder and filler are also considered dark air types. 

Cigar wrapper
---------------
Connecticut valley today, used to be grown in Florida. (Shade tobacco) hand
primed very labor intensive to prevent holes in leaves. Only the finest
cigars are hand rolled with wrapper leaf. High production costs and
development of homogenized leaf has lend to downfall of production.
$4-6.00/lb in 1975 

Cigar binder - Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Wisconsin 

Cigar filler - Pennsylvania, Ohio and Puerto Rico 

Tobacco which doesn't meet wrapper standards becomes cigar binder (75
cents/lb in 1975) and cigar filler (57 cents/lb in 1975). Cigar filler is
heavy bodied and is used to make the case of a cigar. Binder was used as an
inner wrapping to form the shape. Like the wrapper, binder has generally
been replaced by cheaper homogenized leaf. 

Oriental
---------------
(16% of total production) 

Oriental tobacco gives a mild smoke with very characteristic aroma. Resins,
waxes and gum exuded by glandular hairs (trichomes) furnish the aroma.
Nicotine is low averaging around 1.0%. 

Oriental leaf is characterized by its small size, leaf length is 3-10 inches
and is 2-3 times the width. Average plant heights are 3-5 ft. The leaves are
hand primed, normally sewn on a string, and are dull yellow to rich brown in
color. The leaves are sun-cured. 

Production is centered in the USSR, Turkey, Bulgaria, Greece, Yugoslavia,
Romania and Italy. 

Largest importers are the U.S., Japan and Germany. 

Dark-fired
---------------
(1% of World) 

The main use for dark-fired tobacco is in the production of snuff, chewing
tobacco, and pipe blends. Dark-fired leaves are subjected to smoke from
smoldering wood during the early stage of curing. The type of wood used is
very important in determining taste and grown. Cured leaves are very dark in
color and are long and heavy bodied. The plants are topped very low 12-14
leaves, and are stalk cut. 

The only significant world producers are the U.S., Poland, Malawi, Italy and
Tanzania. In the U.S., production is in Virginia, Kentucky and Tennessee. 

Perique
---------------
Perique is produced in St. James Parrish in South Louisiana. Curing consists
of a period of moisture loss in the open, followed by successive periods of
high pressure treatment in barrels. The final product is very black with a
characteristic odor almost like perfume. It is used in a few specialized
pipe mixtures. 

Rustica
---------------
When settlers first reached Jamestown they found the Indians smoking
Nicotiana rustica which contains about 10% nicotine. In the next 300 years
rustica has lost a lot of ground to N. tabacum. At present rustica is grown
and used in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, USSR, Indonesia, Afghanistan,
Burma, Iran, Iraq, Algeria, parts of Africa and South America. Rustica is
smoked primarily in water pipes but is occasionally smoked as cigarettes or
chewed. 

N. rustica is grown in small fields on heavy and manured soils often under
irrigation. The tobacco is stalk cut. Curing usually accomplished by the sun
in the field. 

Source:
http://pitt.ces.state.nc.us/ag/tobacco/tobtypes.html


[Excellent summary, Philip. Thanks! -S.]


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From: ????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I am in desperate need of a pipe rack for a LARGE collection some very
large pipes. Nothing off-the-rack will fit.

Does anyone have any plans (either their own or from books,
woodworking magazines) that I could use as a starting point for my
woodworker to start a custom piece?


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From: ???????????? .com
Subject: posting from pipes page

I have an extensive pipe collection from an estate.  It includes
PORSCHE DESIGN pipes.  Also a absolutely beautiful PORSCHE DESIGN
leather pipe travelling case and PORSCHE DESIGN tobacco pouch.  Also
assorted high quality pipes of various types.


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From: ?????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I wonder if anyone can help me date and/or value a couple of Barling pipes
I bought recently at a flea market.  They are both marked Londoner with
B Barling underneath.  They are marked BB&S on the stem and the shape numbers
are 489 T and 415 T.  I have been told by a friend that the B Barling mark is
older than the Barlings Make and that these are fairly old pipes.  I am not
interested in selling them, but simply would like to confirm the age and 
approximate value.  


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From: "John Martin" <????????????????????>
Subject: Singaporean Tobacco [PIPES]

Friends Pipests Countrymen!

I have recently had the good fortune to travel in Singapore on business and 
was able to take a quick look at the local Pipe/Tobacco scene.

Singapore's government is what could be called a corporatocracy, almost 
everything is controlled by the government, but more with an eye towards 
efficiency and proffit than towards supporting any particular ideology.  The 
country reminds me of what Disneyworld might be like (sans rides) if it were 
run on a national level.  Everything is clean, beautiful and efficient, but 
the place seems to lack soul.

While the government imports cigarettes, cigars, pipes and pipe tobacco, the 
prices are somewhat high and the availability isn't that great.  I had seen 
several small shops that offered pipes, pipe tobacco and cigars for sale.  
At all places, the tobacco was limited to a few pouches of Macbarens 
aromatics and several tins of Davidoff English.  The pipe supply was also 
limited.  One shop sold only Missouri Meerschaums and Savinellis, another 
sold Davidoff Pipes and Comoys, a third sold a brand that I had never heard 
of.  The tobak was a bit pricy, I bought a 50g tin of Davidoff for $18 US.  
Curiously, the pipe prices were unremarkable, I think that they may even be 
a bit lower than they were back home in Wichita, Kansas.  I also understand 
that there is a limit to how much tobacco a foreign national could bring for 
his or her own use.

Smoking itself, seems to be restricted in a manner similar to what we 
experience in the States.  It is banned from offices, but there are other 
places, like hotel lobbies and possibly night clubs, where it is allowed.

On the whole, I think that while one could do far better for pipes & tobacco 
even in Kansas, one wouldn't risk running out while one was in Singapore.

John E. Martin
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From: ?????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I have just aquired a hand made Beaver Special by WCS. The silver
hallmarks indicate Birmingham. Just looking for any info anyone has on
this pipe or its maker. L.K.


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From: ??????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I have a Brial pipe . this pipe features a metal chamber for cooling.
I am interested in selling this item. If you are interested please
e-mail me at the above address.

Thank you 
Terrie


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From: "georgi todorov" <?????????????????????>
Subject: first submit

Hi, everybody!
This is my first words in the Digest, so for now I just want to let you all 
know, that a new pipe smoker and pipe maker is here. I am interested in 
everythig, that has something to do with nice and well crafted briarwood 
pipes. That's all for now, I must finish my first ordered pipe for tommorow.
Smoke in peace,
Goga from Getz pipes
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From: "michael duke" <??????????????????????>
Subject: James Upshall

der Mr Masticola would you please be kind enought to visit our site 
www.jamesupshall.co.uk is it at all possible to edit us in your pipe 
magazine that we have heard so much about from so many pipe smokers   
many thanks Anita of J.U     p.s. do you have a webb-site

[Hey, Steve, do we have a web site? :-) -S.]



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From: (No address given)
Subject: posting from pipes page

  A list of some of the Dunhill Tobaccos
     available only from Dunhill in London
           Alfred Dunhill Ltd.
           48 Jermyn Street, St. James's
           London, England SW1Y 6LX
        phone: 011 44 207 290 8603        and the FAX # is:011 44 207  
290 
8725

These numbers are good from the U.S.A.  There may be different 
requirements 
from outside the U.S.A.
   011 

Michael Stanley


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From: ?????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Hello,

I have a question regarding a pipe.  I have recently started my family
tree and I am in possession of what I believe is a Prussian Regimental
Pipe.  It has two 'cups' on the end, is wood everyplace else, has
pictures of a man in uniform with a woman, and states the following,
in German:

Wilhelm Michel
A pretty girl in your arms makes a soldier feel warm
So lived a man in Stralsund-1876
Third Pomeranian Infantry Division
Live happy days and forget me not

Were these pipes common?  If anyone has any information, I would
greatly appreciate it, I am stuck in my research!!

Thank you,
Kelly


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From: ?????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Just to say Hello to everybody for the first time and greetings from
the Pipe-smocker from Macedonia, (well we are only two in 100.000 p
city, but we are strong inaf to continue as pipe smocker.


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From: ????????????????????
Subject: comment from pipes page

I would like to receive PD.  Also, I am looking for a certain pipe for a 
friend of mine that has just started smoking a pipe.  Any idea on how to 
get a USMC meerschaum, or a custom carved meerscaum? 

[That's something that's not in the Guide. Anyone know of a custom
meerschaum carver who could do the USMC emblem in 3D? -S.]


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From: [Address withheld upon request. -S.]
Subject: posting from pipes page

This last digest was incredible. It seems that there were fewer people
wanting to know what their antique pipe was worth so they could sell
it vs. those who wanted to smoke it. Excellent stories and
cockenbull!!! Honestly, I get tired of coming across the blurbs that
state, "could any body tell me what this pipe is worth?" I'll tell you
what it is worth! It's worth an hour of quiet bliss. A meditation no
Guru could teach. You tell me what you would pay for a symphony of the
senses, and that is what that pipe is worth. Light the friggin' thing,
don't sell it! Hell, briar could single handedly put the whole screwed
up mental health industry out of buisness.

Opinions are like #$% *&@#'s and they all stink. I am aware of
this. There are purists in every hobby and walk of life, including
pipe smoking. The arguement of captain black vs dunhill is one that
seems to come up a lot. Here is my opinion. I have found that the
expensive tinned mixtures have fewer to no additives in them. I vallue
this since the cigarette industry's practice of using additives
offends me so much. I would rather hassle with searching high and low
for tinned stuff than turn my already *questionable appetite for
tabacco into a further health debate that takes place between my own
two ears.

*(my wife questions it a lot. But since I am not boozing and gambling,
I guess she counts her self lucky. She refuses to join me though, but
if she did I would count my self luckey.)

I have just purchaced a Saab 9000 CD. (No Turbo Charger) Most people's
response to this is pitty. they do not see the beauty in this peice of
machinary that I do.This is a second car and so I am not relying on it
solely for transportation. If there was ever a reason for a good pipe,
it would be when that fine peice of europeon machinery is in need of
tlc and patience, because no fine tuning happens on those fancy cars
in a hurry. So I am looking forward to the scerenity that no guru
could teach. I will light up my preference of a fine, additive free
tinned blend and conduct that symphony of the scenses with a snap-on
ratchet.

On a final note, my favorite scent. Cracking open a new tin of Dunhill
and an old book. There is something about the two wonderfull oders
that goes so well together. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm---Yum!!! Especially in
front of a warm wood stove.

Steve, please do not publish my e-mail adress. thanks. Me.


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From: "Richard J. Alley" <??????????????????????????>
Subject: November 2000 newsletter

[Portions of newsletter were deleted for space reasons. Since this
appears to be a regular periodical, interested readers are advised to
subscribe directly. -S.]

M-Bar and Memphis Tobacco Bowl proudly present...

Cigars at the Bar
Cigar and cognac tasting at Melange restaurant
Tuesday, November 14, 2000.
7 p.m.

An evening of beverages and cigars, paired with assorted tapas.
Cigars provided by Memphis Tobacco Bowl will include a Fonseca Vintage
selection as well as a Baccarat Vintage. Beverages will be provided by
United Liquors .  $25 plus tax & gratuity. Reservations required,
seats are limited.

Melange
948 South Cooper Street at Young Avenue
Memphis, TN 38104
R.S.V.P. (901)276-0002

Memphis Tobacco Bowl
152 Madison Avenue
Memphis, Tennessee 38103
(901) 525-2310
???????????????????????
http://www.memphistobacco.com   =A0


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From: (no address given)
Subject: posting from pipes page

Dear Friends of the Digest,

     Like so many in the briar brotherhood and meerschaum manifold, I
read with delight that hallowed tome and labour of love of he good
Mister R.C. Hacker, "The Ultimate Pipe Book". It was a refreshing
thing indeed to have at my disposal such an exhaustive and expertly
crafted peice of reference into my favorite passtime and yours. Yet
with all the freely given bits of expertice and wonderous
illustrations, there came to my attention some truly unfortumeate bits
of misinformation in Mister Hacker's otherwise masterful work. Such
factual incostencies may easily be forgiven in light of all he great
works done by Mister Hacker in the service of the wonderous yet
waining spirit of the pipe, however, I do believe that one nobel
aspect of the beautious corpus of the art of pipe smoking was done
great wrong with the setting down of this falsehood. The member of the
pantheon of pipes to which I refer is the nobel traditional clay and
the injustice levied against it is as follows. It was said by the good
Mister Hacker that the traditonal clay has fallen from its once
ubiquotis position of favour mong smokers for one one great reason,
the said fact that the stem of a clay is unfit to be heald in the
teeth, any attempt to do so would most cirtianly result in immediate
breakage. Consequentally, Mister Hacker posed that the clay has only
to be heald in the hand making for rather an inconvient venture in
smoking as opposed to all other manner of pipes which can be clencked
in the jaws of the smoker with no problems. Further, for these very
reasons, the venerable Mister Hacker resigned the classic yet humble
clay to the realm of the historical curiosity and not to be considered
sereiously for regular smoking.

     From my on experience, I can here atest that all such information
 given in reference to the clay therein was false. Long had I felt the
 draw in he mistique of the anicent clay, with it came to me the
 images of Sherlock Holmes' with his old and oily companion in the
 three pipe problem, and the lusty clansmen with his trusty cutty. The
 wonderous glow of history abounds from the clay as from the cheery
 ember of Virginia flake kindeled on a November evening. I longed to
 posess one, even after I had reade Mister Hacker's scathing berating
 of its practicality. Long did I serch local smoke shoppes so to
 secure for myself one of these dwindling bits of pipe antiquity and,
 finally, I was successful. I came to find but one lay in the stock of
 a shoppe in a neighboring town. I was quick to make it mine. A fine,
 six inch affair, complete with spur at the bottom. Upon purchase,
 itching to christen the virgin stem, I packed the small bowl with a
 favoured perique mixture and, without thought, put it to my teeth in
 preparation to light. I started, thinking that here I had instantally
 destroyed that which I had so longed for, yet, I was met with an
 entirely different surprise. The stem was entirely intact despite my
 firm grip as I would have on any of my pipes. Let it be known that I
 am a notorious stem champer, many have comented as to the amount and
 depth of the teeth marks on each of my pipes, yet the clay was
 fine. In truth, I so enjoyed it that the clay soon became a favoured
 smoke of mine. Whear a briar had been the permanate fixture at my
 mouth's corner, often for weeks it was now the clay, as, unlike
 briar, clay does not sour with continued usage. I recall one instance
 wherein I had undertaken the singular task of assisting a friend of
 mine who acts as county grave digger in the construction of one such
 eternal bedchamber. Throughout the chore, there burned that clay at
 my mouth's corner and, as can be imagined, grave digging is not
 without its jostles!  and times of jaw clenching.

     To you then, dear devoties of this digest, I implore that you
     give second look to the humble clay, a fine and lasting smoke and
     one surely within the bounds of any economy.

Blowing a smoke ring of thanks from my trusty jack-tar,
T.M. Jaques   


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From: Bill Taylor <???????????????????????>
Subject: pyrolytic graphite pipes collection and web site update

Hi, Steve and my pipe collecting/smoking friends!

The book's done: "the pipe": Manufacturing and Marketing Pyrolytic
Graphite Pipes From Development to Demise! After discussion with the
publisher, it was decided that it would be best, because of its small
size and limited market, that the book not be "published" at all in
the traditional sense.  Therefore, it has no ISBN and will not have a
Library of Congress catalog reference. It's available from my web
site: >http://billietaylor.com/, after Enter Here, click Pipe
Collector, then A History of "the pipe." I hope you'll want to have
one; only $10 including postage. Any of you who publish a pipe-related
magazine or newsletter are asked to mention this little book in your
publication. (Feel free to reproduce the announcement page from the
web site if you have the space.)

Other news: 

I have been in touch with a pipe carver who says he is lining his pipe
bowls with pyrolytic graphite! From our conversations, it appears that
it really is at least graphite! If you want to try a brand new
hand-carved briar with a graphite bowl liner ??????????????? and ask
Alan about them.

The collection grows apace (three new "the pipe," one better THE SMOKE, and
three better examples of Venturi) and there are, as of this writing, several
duplicate pipes that I am offering for sale. Just click Duplicate Pipes for
Sale or Trade from the Pipe Collector page.

In addition to Pipes Digest, I am sending this to just about everybody I
have an e-mail address for who ever sold, gave, or traded a pipe to me or who
ever inquired about buying a pipe from me, so if you don't care to be
contacted again, just let me know.

Puff in peace.
Bill 
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Bill Taylor <???????????????????????>

http://www.billietaylor.com
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From: ???????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I have a question.  Being merely a beginner in the art of pipe-smoking,
I have been reading "how-to's" and "FAQ's."  However, I have come across a 
discrepancy between two sources.  One says to tamp the ash and relight, and
the other adamantly insists the ash be knocked out and then the pipe relit.
What should I do?  The first source claims that ash helps insulate the rest
of the tobacco, making for a cooler smoke and an even light.  I don't think
the other source gave any reasons for removing it, but it was rather forceful
on that point.  What is the generally accepted practise?  What are the reasons
for these two methods?  Is it yet another issue of personal preference?  I'd
appreciate any input.  

Thanks,
Keith

[Two FAQs with two different ways of doing things? Unthinkable! :-)
I'd say it's an issue of preference, or more accurately
circumstance. A heavy layer of ash can make the pipe hard to
relight. -S.]


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Quote of the Week:

      When I've eat my fill and my belt is snug,
      I begin to think of my baccy plug.
      I whittle a fill in my horny palm,
      And the edge of me old clay pipe I cram.
      I trim the edges, I tamp it down,
      I nurse the light with anxious frown;
      And up in a cloud the good smoke goes,
      And the pipe glimmers and fades and glows;
      In its throat it chuckles a cheery song,
      For I likes it hot, and I likes it strong.
      Oh, it's good, is grub, when you're feeling hollow,
      But the best of a meal's the smoke to follow.

				   - Robert Service
				     "The Black Dundeen"


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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #272 -- November 8, 2000
  2. Subject: posting from pipes page
  3. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #271 -- September 6, 2000
  4. Subject: tobacco and the enlightenment
  5. Subject: posting from pipes page
  6. Subject: sorry could only find the abstract
  7. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #271 -- September 6, 2000
  8. Subject: Medical Journal Article on Pipe Smoking ?
  9. Subject: Smoking and longevity
  10. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #271 -- September 6, 2000
  11. Subject: posting from pipes page
  12. Subject: posting from pipes page
  13. Subject:
  14. Subject: for your next issue
  15. Subject: posting from pipes page
  16. Subject: smoking at a ripe old age
  17. Subject: Pipeshows and Dunhill OD
  18. Subject: posting from pipes page
  19. Subject: Knocking the plug loose in the bowl
  20. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #271 -- September 6, 2000
  21. Subject: Cherry tobacco
  22. Subject: "Women Pipesmokers" Captain Black Pipes & Canadians?
  23. Subject: Women Pipesmokers
  24. Subject: pipe smoking
  25. Subject: A new site is born
  26. Subject: Pipes
  27. Subject: posting from pipes page
  28. Subject: posting from pipes page
  29. Subject: posting from pipes page
  30. Subject: PD Resource Guide change please
  31. Subject: Jobey Sunburst Pipe
  32. Subject: posting from pipes page
  33. Subject: 10th anniversary
  34. Subject: Perique tobacco
  35. Subject: Perique Tobacco
  36. Subject: posting from pipes page
  37. Subject: posting from pipes page
  38. Subject: locating store
  39. Subject: comment from pipes page
  40. Subject: Tobbaco in USA
  41. Subject: posting from pipes page
  42. Subject: posting from pipes page
  43. Subject: posting from pipes page
  44. Subject: Singaporean Tobacco [PIPES]
  45. Subject: posting from pipes page
  46. Subject: posting from pipes page
  47. Subject: first submit
  48. Subject: James Upshall
  49. Subject: posting from pipes page
  50. Subject: posting from pipes page
  51. Subject: posting from pipes page
  52. Subject: comment from pipes page
  53. Subject: posting from pipes page
  54. Subject: November 2000 newsletter
  55. Subject: posting from pipes page
  56. Subject: pyrolytic graphite pipes collection and web site update
  57. Subject: posting from pipes page
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