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                Pipes Digest #290 -- January 24, 2005
   Copyright (C) 2005 by Steven J. Beaty. All rights reserved.
               Commercial use of any part of contents,
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Today's Topics:
        Smoking and social acceptability...
        Post for PIPES DIGEST
        Re: Pipes Digest #289
        Re: Pipes Digest #289
        PD 289
        First posting
        Re:Bonfiglioli speaking
        Twin Ports Pipe Club
        Re: Anti-smoke act in Italy
        get this one out...

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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:31:24 -0700 (MST)
From: ????????????????????
Subject: Smoking and social acceptability...

Dear Pipe Friends,

I took notice of the letter from Stefano Toria in which he discussed the
issues of public smoking in Italy.  Here in the US, there is a level of
unacceptability.  Of course I respect it.  I smoke even less frequently
than Mr. Toria.  I have a pipe about 5 times a year on special holidays.  I
love to smoke my pipe, but one bowlful of tobacco lasts me for many weeks.
There is a lot of ignorance associated with the consequences of pipe
smoking.  The actual statistics I have seen seem to indicate that pipe
smokers actually live longer than non-smokers and longer than cigar or
cigarette smokers.  Even though the statistics show this "advantage" to
smoking a pipe, insurance companies group all smokers together, regardless
of the "nicotine delivery system" being used.  This lack of thinking and
discrimination on the part of the insurance actuaries almost dictates that
we pipe smokers--especially occasional ones--have to assume our roles as
elitists and make our own rules.  (I'm only partly kidding)

Rev. John Giunta

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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:45:37 -0500
From: "Russell Clay" <????????????????>
Subject: Post for PIPES DIGEST

Excellent job as always! This digest is a wonderful resource
for pipe smokers and a great way to connect with other
"briar brothers" (and sisters too).

My question has been asked, and answered, many times in
previous Digests, but I've lost old files and need a
refresher, on PIPE CLEANING SERVICES.  Can someone e-mail me
the name, e-mail address, and/or phone of your favorite,
best, most professional pipe restorer?  I've got some old
briars that need a good cleaning, and with arthritis I can't
do the job myself.

Thanks, and may your smoke always curl upward!   ~Russell
Clay, New York City

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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:13:03 -0600
From: Sami Mikhail <??????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #289

>Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:42:35 -0400
>From: "Dennis Congos" <????????????????????>
>Subject: Professor's pipe sweetening treatment
>[...]  I have begun to suspect an old wives
>tale has emerged regarding cracking and the treatment.  [...]

First, thanks for the treatment. Works well!

But, it's not an old wives' tale. I have personally totaled on 
Meerschaum Calabash.

So, not writing to dispute your findings but to offer a cautionary tale: 
Don't use the salt treatment on a Calabash. Particularly: Don't stuff 
the gourd full of salt AND stuff the Meer. insert full of salt AND leave 
the whole mess soaking for several weeks. The end result will be a 
shattered Meer. insert and hopelessly salted gourd. Oh, and the sealing 
cork wasn't in great shape when I was done.

Had I done some thinking prior to the treatment, I would have figured 
all this out. In the event, however, I had to actually experience the 
pain of the object lesson.

Question: Do you reckon that's going to be an issue for any Meerschaum, 
because of the lattice like nature of the material? I haven't had the 
guts to experiment with any of my other Meers.

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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:51:53 -0700 (MST)
From: ????????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #289

Dear Steve;

     Having just read Stefano Toria's complaint about the complete
banishment of smokers to the out of doors, I can only come to the
conclusion that he is hanging around with the wrong people, and I'm not
talking about the Italian equivalent of white trash that U.S.  smokers are
portrayed to be in movies, etc.  When David Field and I go to Italy, as we
will in mid-February, we should have no trouble at all smoking indoors, and
not just because we are so justifiably held in universal high esteem by the
Italian people.  When we are indoors in the basement  workshop of Luigi
Radice and sons, we will be encouraged to smoke our pipes.  Next, we will
see Bruto and Rosaria Sordini, of Don Carlos pipes.  We will likely smoke
in both their workshop and home.  Visiting the tobacco distribution
warehouse of Mario Lubinski, we can count on not being dissuaded from
lighting up, as will be the case when we visit with Paolo Becker, in his
laboratory.  A visit to Toto Amorelli will bring the same results.  

     Clearly, then, Stefano's crime is simply one of having aspired, and
reached, management in the wrong field.  It might not be too late for him
to change careers.  

     And to answer his question about the status of pipe and cigar smokers
in the U.S., it might be safe to say that we have no status.  We are
non-entities.  (Maybe that's why I go to Europe so much.)  Good luck

Marty Pulvers

P.S.  I may well have salt-cured even more pipes than Dennis Congos.  There
is always at least a large basketful of reconditioned pipes in my store,
plus the higher end pieces, and not once in over 20 years has a briar pipe
been in any way damaged during, or by, this treatment.  (Gourd Calabash
pipes must be treated a little differently than briar in terms of how long
to let the alcohol sit in the gourd.)  I've often forgotten about a pipe or
three, and it has sat with the salt and evaporated alcohol for weeks, again
without any harm.  If somebody is damaging their pipes with this treatment,
they are doing something awfully, awfully wrong.  By the way, I think I
learned of this treatment from either Barry Levin or Father Al Grosskopf.
I didn't know it was developed by Dennis.  Huzzahs to him.

[Marty: I always appreciate your take on things, even if I never know just
how firmly your tounge is planted in your cheek :-) ]

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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:28:55 -0700 (MST)
From: "Peter Puck's Maple Leaf Mailing List" <????????????????????>
Subject: PD 289

Re:Anti smoking law in Italy by Stefano Toria -

I can sympathize with you Stefano.

Our bylaws here in Ontario, Canada are even more strict.

It states smoking is prohibited anywhere in a public place. Oh how I wish I 
had an area designated to smoke my pipe. It used to be a couple of years 
ago there was a glassed in area I could go to smoke my pipe and areas of 
restaurants and pubs were designated for smoking.

Now it is forbidden to smoke anywhere, in a restaurant, bar or public place 
(mall, airport, hospital etc.)

Even more interesting is that it is also forbidden to smoke anywhere within 
20 feet of the establishment. In Northern Ontario it can be quite the 
dedicated smoker who will go outside and stand like cattle under massive 
patio heaters when it is -30 degrees celsius.

Stefano...like I say, I sympathize with you but also cherish the fact you 
can still smoke inside. (-:

Someday the anti-smoking lobby will have their way possibly in Italy as well.

Smoke in peace.

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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:05:58 +0000
From: Frank Thomas <?????????????????>
Subject: First posting

Greetings fellow pipe smokers. 

I've been lurking for a while, catching up on the back issues of this 
most useful publication so I thought it high time I introduced myself.

I'm 37 yrs old and I've recently returned to smoking a pipe after a few 
years absence (I never could get the hang of it.)  I decided to take up 
the pipe again to try and wean myself off cigarettes.  So far so good - 
I don't smoke the ciggies at home anymore (apart from the odd one or two 
over the weekend.)  I have to smoke them at work as I don't have the 
time to devote to getting the benefit of a bowlful of my favourite blends.

I mostly seem to be smoking Falcon pipes at the moment, I have a 
Peterson but I think my technique needs working on to get the best out 
of it.  As far as baccy goes, I seem to have gravitated to English 
blends - specifically Dunhills 965 (currently in the pipe) and their 
Nightcap as well (although my partner doesn't like the smell of that one 
but she's fine with all the other Dunhill blends so far.)  For a change, 
every now and again, I quite like a bowlful of straight Black Cavendish 
- the aroma is fabulous but there's not much strength to it (mind you - 
I've been smoking hand rolled cigarettes for a heck of a long time now 
so my idea of "strong" may not be the same as anyone elses.)

Well - that's about all for the moment, best sign off as the pipe needs 


Frank Thomas

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:07:49 +0100
From: "Alberto Bonfiglioli PipeMaker" <???????????????????????????>
Subject: Re:Bonfiglioli speaking

The Italy is a strange country we breath all days the gas made from many
many cars motobikes or truks in our narrow streets, but the Heatlh Minister
thinks to forbid to smoke pipes and cigars, that's incredible, when the
Govern take a lot of money on the smoke business.

But in Italy we are able to make laws, but there aren't persons to enforce
the law (only few cases).  In any case we need to have patience, in few
months all should be normal.

This is Italy.
Alberto Bonfiglioli pipemaker of the world.

P.S. i produce pipes and in my shop i can't smoke and my clients members of
the club stay outdoor for to smoke,because is impossible to put in the
machine for to clean up well the air produced inside.

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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:21:23 -0600
From: Rory Litwin <?????????????????????>
Subject: Twin Ports Pipe Club

Dear Steven,

I would like to announce the formation of the Twin Ports Pipe Club, a pipe 
club for Duluth/Superior and NE Minnesota.

Contact person:
Rory Litwin

614 North 18th Ave. East
Duluth, MN  55812

Web page:

It's just a couple of us meeting on a weekly basis or so at the moment, but 
we figure there must be other pipe smokers around here.


Rory Litwin

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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 07:19:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Adam <?????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Anti-smoke act in Italy

I am in the USA - Midwest.  Many of the restaurants and public places that
have smoking sections do not allow for pipe or cigar smokers.  I have
never been given a clear answer as to why this is.  The common response is
"I am sorry Sir it is Store/Restaurant Policy..."  On occasions when I
have smoked my pipe outdoors in public, I have had cigarette smokers
openly complain about my pipe smoke, and high-school aged kids asking me
if I smoke "pot in that thing."  There are no smoke rooms at my workplace,
and even if there were, I would be the only one smoking a pipe or cigar. 
I do not care much for most brands of cigarette smoke.

I have resigned myself to only smoke around my home.  I smoke to relax,
and out in public it seems to only cause complication.  I would like to
note that not all Midwest communities are this way some are more accepting
of pipe an cigar smokers... some don't really care either way.

-Adam Ziegler

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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:05:48 -0700 (MST)
From: Steve Beaty <????????????????????>
Subject: get this one out...


	well, let's get this going out...

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #290
  2. Subject: Smoking and social acceptability...
  3. Subject: Post for PIPES DIGEST
  4. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #289
  5. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #289
  6. Subject: PD 289
  7. Subject: First posting
  8. Subject: Re:Bonfiglioli speaking
  9. Subject: Twin Ports Pipe Club
  10. Subject: Re: Anti-smoke act in Italy
  11. Subject: get this one out...
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