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                Pipes Digest #298 -- June 13, 2006
   Copyright (C) 2006 by Steven J. Beaty. All rights reserved.
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Today's Topics:
        Pipe stores
        Re: Pipes Digest #297
        Changing Times
        pipe question
        [Rejected: not on accept list]
        RE: Pipes Digest #297
        Re: Pipes Digest #297
        pipe shops in NYC
        A Posting
        just a little post
        pipe smoking
        First Post
        time for another digest...

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 09:05:49 -0400
From: "Walter L. De Visser, Sr" <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Pipe stores

'Tis well and good to bemoan the passing of a pipe and tobacco store.
All while one purchases tobacco and pipes over the internet.  One thing
to remember is that stores like this require a lot of purchases in order
to stay in business.  If one wishes to earn a living, say $1,000 a week
to put it in the middle of the competing job possibilities, (and there
are many of you out there that wouldn't work for that amount, but it
serves as an example),  With the store space, even cheap of at least
$1,000, plus utilities, advertising, phone, and all the rest, one would
have to sell at least $10,000 a month with a 100% markup.  ($4,000 wages
+ $1,000 store rent) x 2 ($5000 to replace sold products plus the $5,000
for wages and store front).  This means you are not hiring any help and
would have to be in store from 9:00 to 9:00 yourself plus weekends, etc.
 Oh, yeah, here in Michigan you have to pay tobacco tax of 32% so you
would have to sell about $16,400 a month.  That is a lot of pipes,
cigars, and other tobacco products.  a 100% markup is not always
practical.  Now $4,000 worth of business each week may not sound like
much and it may not be in a big city but add the extra help, taxes,
insurance, and many, many other expenses and that number has to go up in
leaps and bounds.

My point is that we purchase from online because it is easy and cheaper.
 Most brick and mortar stores are fading because of the anti tobacco
pressures, cost of goods, and fewer pipe  smokers.  Cigars are very
expensive and the wealthy can afford them but the masses cannot.
Cigarettes are bought at the corner store.  It is nice to go to the
tobacco store but now days we go to look more and buy less.  That
doesn't add to the bottom line and that is what is killing tobacco

Walter De Visser, Sr 

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:00:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: william thomas <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #297

I was frustrated as well by the demise of Astley's in
London, an institution for over a century. Frankly, it
makes me nervous. If we can't find a good pipeshop in
the city, however will we find one in the
country? Shall it be strictly mail order from now on? I
fear the demise of pipe-smoking entirely.
-Will Thomas

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:54:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bosaiya <??????????????????>
Subject: Changing Times

In response to the posts about the inevitable demise of the tobacco and
pipes retailers, I agree that it will hardly be a surprise when they
finally disappear for good.

As a pipe smoker and large format film photographer I have watched the
twin joys (not counting family, etc) of my life become marginalized and
sidelined. At first I was frustrated and sad, but gradually I began to
realize that it's the natural order of things. Would a sunset be as
beautiful if it didn't signal the end of the day? Of course there is
always the next sunrise to brighten things up again, as it were, but I
still find the analogy comforting on some level.

With photography the demise of film, especially large format film, in the
retail arena has been swift and sure and has left a lot of people in shock
and dismay. But what it has done is ushered in a new era of boutique and
overseas suppliers to fill the void. Just because Kodak doesn't produce
8x10" film anymore doesn't mean it's not available - in fact several new
sources have stepped in to fill the market. And that's the key, of course,
there is still a market, albeit smaller than before.

As long as there is a market for tobacco and pipes there will be
suppliers. They might not be as conveniently located, and they may cost
more in the long run, but since their customer base is also smaller they
will be more inclined to listen to our wants and needs - at least if they
hope to stay in business.

The end of an era does not necassarily mean that you will not be able to
continue enjoying your passions. What you need to do is find a good
supplier that gives you what you want and express your gratitude both with
words and with money. When the American and Japanese film companies
started dropping support for large format film in favor of digital the
Eastern Bloc brought new factories on line and now much film is made
there. If the American tobacco suppliers go away and there is still enough
of a demand we may see a ressurgance from lands abroad.

All is not lost and I for one would advocate enjoying the sun while it
sets, preferably with a nice full bowl and plenty of matches.

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 13:43:12 EDT
From: ??????????????
Subject: pipe question

I have been smoking a pipe for more than 20 years and I have a collection  of 
pipes that have outlived their stems. What's the best thing to do with them?  
Can they be repaired in a cost-effective manner? 
Ken Lipshez
Unionville, CT

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 15:59:57 -0600 (MDT)
From: Bill Taylor <?????????????????>
Subject: [Rejected: not on accept list]

Hi, Steve! Thanks for continuing the good work. It's more important than 
ever to the pipe-smoking community that PD carry on. I got to thinking when 
#297 came today that, with the publication losses recently (the most recent 
and most deeply felt, of course, being Tom Dunn and his THE PIPE SMOKERS' 
EPHEMERIS), only the NASPC's newsletter THE PIPE COLLECTOR <www.naspc.org> 
and PIPES & TOBACCOS <www.pt-magazine.com> are left for those not in the 
business. (The RTDA catalog and SMOKESHOP are trade publications - I think 
those are the only two left of that genre too - and they won't accept 
subscriptions from the un-anointed masses.) Are there any other 
publications devoted to pipes? Which brings me back to the beginning: thank 
you, Steve!

Regarding my web site: there have been a number of changes since I last 
wrote. A new address, some new information, and a couple of new mysteries 
about my pets - THE PIPE, THE SMOKE, and VENTURI pipes. Please do visit and 
let me know what you think about the changes. (I hesitate to say 
improvements: you be the judge of that.)

Puff in peace,
Bill Taylor <www.thepipe.info>

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:39:31 +0000
From: "Richard Agins" <??????????????>
Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #297

In response to the question of whether there are still pipe shops in New
York City, I suggest that the writer contact Ed Burak at the Connoisseur
Pipe Shop - 247-6054, located at 51st St. and Ave. of the Americas on the
concourse level.  Ed is a master purveyor of pipes and pipe tobacco and has
always been among the best - if not the best - in the city. He is also
among the most wonderful people you could ever hope to meet.

Richard Agins

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 19:33:47 -0400
From: ????????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #297


     A couple of words, if I may.  Dunhill's demise as a tobacco
purveyor in the U.S. couldn't have been helped by the anti-tobacco mania,
but, Dunhill has closed every store in the U.S., except NYC.  They closed
because they became terrible businessmen.  They stopped producing bench
made pipes and became a brand (with products produced for them by contract)
instead of a producer.  They sold clothes at extra high mark-ups, after
stitching in a Dunhill label.  They abandoned their core business, tobacco
and related products, paid excessive rents in exclusive districts and in
general showed they had no notion of what originally brought them to the
dance.  As with British pipes in general, they're dead due to suicide.

     On another sad note, I've had to close my tobacco shop (one a purist
would love, if I say so myself) because of an expired lease and a huge
tobacco tax looming over the state of California, precluding the signing of
a new lease and the risk inherent in so doing.  It's too bad, because we
were definitely in the black, despite the vicious anti-tobacco sentiment in
California in gen'l., and San Francisco in particular.  In other words, a
viable tobacco shop is still possible (or at least up until now).

     Finally, if Gary Estes is still looking for a briar pipe kit, I have
one for a lousy $15.  I doubt that the briar is Corsican straight grain,
but it is old and free of any excess moisture, I can pretty much guarantee

     There, even I posted to get this great site going again.  Now you all
do your part.  With our combined effort, we can fill a part of the void
left by the passing of you-know-who.

Marty Pulvers 

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:37:00 -0400
From: "Albert L. Sites, Sr." <????????????????>
Subject: NYC

I too have never posted before. I have enjoyed reading everyone's posts
though. I have a small collection (4) of pipes and smoke anywhere from once
or twice a week to once a month depending on how much time I have.

For the gentlemen looking for a nice pipe store in NYC let put in two plugs.
The first is Nat Sherman's on 42nd and 5th Ave. My wife and I visit NYC
every December. About 7 and a half years ago we were there and my cheap
yello-bole, or whatever they are called, had broken. I had always like to
visit Nat's to purchase cigarettes, before I quit them and found the great
pleasure of pipes. We walked in and asked what they had in the $25 dollar
range. Their pipe expert showed me their generic pipes and then asked who
the pipe was for. When we told him it was for me, he pulled an older GBD out
from underneath the counter. It had been a window model and had faded on one
side. He sold me that pipe for $25 and today you cannot see which side was
faded (plenty of nose oil). They do not have a large selection of pipes or
tobacco but they are very nice and if you are in NYC it is worth stopping

The second shop is De La Concha (www.delaconcha.com) on the Avenue of the
Americas. It is a couple of blocks from central park. There is a gentleman
in there that only smokes $600 pipes. I believe that Dunhills are his
favorite. They have a much larger selection of pipes and tobacco and for the
past several years I have only smoked two of their blends Marbella and
Longfellow. A year and a half ago, I was looking for another pipe and this
gentleman steered me to a Hardcastle. I believe that they are made in the
Dunhill plant. It is now my favorite pipe.

For the gentlemen looking for predrilled briar, I have a bent kit from Pimo
(www.pimopipecraft.com) and the smokehole is drilled right at the bottom for
a good draw.

Al Sites
Mechanicsburg, PA

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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:52:13 -0400
From: "Gerald J. Johnson" <????????????????????????>
Subject: pipe shops in NYC

In response to Brad Krones question:

On my occasional visits to Manhattan, I stop by Arnold's on Madison
Avenue and De La Concha on Sixth Avenue.  I quite often find an
interesting pipe to add to my collection at either or both shops.  Nat
Sherman and Davidoff have smaller inventories of pipes and I've not
found anything at either in some time.

All of the above have websites where you can check for the exact address
and other info.

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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:22:46 EDT
From: ???????????????
Subject: A Posting

Good Afternoon,
It was a beautiful day back in May of 1994 when I drove from my home in
Finksburg, MD, to a pipe show down in Crystal City, VA. The show was a PCCI
function hosted by Jack Ermentraut (probably misspelled), who owned a shop
or shops in the Dallas, TX, area.

The show was well attended and as I recall was a rather nice pipe show.
During the show there came the time for the pipe smoking contest and quite
a few gentlemen were in attendance. I do not recall if there were any
female contestants. I took my seat on the front row and we were all given
the necessary items, two wooden matches, something to strike them on and
3.3 grams of cube cut burley. After the initial set up time the actual
smoking portion of the contest began. Among the contestants was the then
Canadian pipe smoking champion and I'm sorry but I don't recall his name.
Also, seated somewhere behind me was a pal of mine, Mike Polichek, from
the Fader's smoke shops in Baltimore.

As I was seated on the front row I could only observe the contestants on
either side of me. I was unable to take notice of what was going on behind
me. As the contest proceeded there was of course the first guy out who
received the usual bag of hundreds of wooden matches. From time to time
another, then another would retire from the competition, each receiving a
nice round of applause. Finally after what seemed like many hours of
smoking that dastardly cube cut burley we were down to only two smokers.
Yeah, you guessed it, Polichek and me.

My tongue felt like it was residing on the proverbial hinge of hell and I'm
sure I was down to smoking wood. I was actually starting to rise from my
seat to throw in the towel when I heard applause. It seems my pal Mike
Polichek had thrown in the towel and alas, I won the contest at 1 hour and
33 minutes of smoking time. My pipe of choice on this day was a rather
large City Deluxe pot, still a favorite of mine.

Someone on the sidelines said "now go for the time." However, all I wanted
to do at that point in time was to duck my head, swollen tongue and all, in
a big bucket of ice water.

The grand prize on this day was a beautiful Dunhill 3-star dead root in the
most gorgeous of presentation boxes. In the brochures leading up to this
pipe show the pipe was valued at $2500. Needless to say this day was most
exciting and a memory I will treasure always. By the way, Polichek won a
beautiful pipe rack that was valued at several hundred dollars.

I really got the feeling that Mr. Ermentraut would have preferred that one
of his good pals would have won the contest, but that's the way it goes.
Mr. Ermentraut was kind enough to send me pictures taken during and after
the contest, as well as the news letter containing all the pertinent

There's no need to ask me how this beautiful Dunhill pipe smokes because
frankly, I've never had the nerve to put tobacco and match to it. It's
still as pristine as it was 12 years ago. Oh, I've had many offers from
others to try it out for me but I don't think that will happen.

Thanks for allowing me to reminisce a bit.

Robert Grosz
Sandston, VA

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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:52:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: matt tessman <????????????????????>
Subject: just a little post

as a pipe (and a cigar) smoker, i feel we need to boycott companies that
will not employ tobacco users. one company is west marine. this is
especially disturbing because of the history of the pipe smoking sailor. i
know that boaters have to go to west for some equipment. however, more and
more supplies are available at target and autozone. please let me know
about other non-tobacco companies.

matt tessman

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Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:34:57 -0400
From: "buddy liverman" <????????????????????>
Subject: pipe smoking

when i was a child say 1960 61, in Raleigh, nc. you saw alot of
pipesmoking, on the street. In asheville we have two pipe shops, they do
very well. It is sad of the decline of the pipeshop/smoker. people laugh
at me because i like aromatic tobacco, i love a good pipe even though i
don't smoke much a good pipe is as good as your tobacco. was their a lot
of smoking going on in the 60's thanks buddy liverman pipesmoker and
railroad fan. 

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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:11:36 -0700
From: "cammelspit" <?????????????????????????>
Subject: First Post

Hi, I am new to the digest and am just saying Hi and telling a little
about myself. I am 22 years of age and have been an avid pipe/cigar
smoker for 4 or so years now. I have a decent pipe collection of
aproximately 8 pipes or so. Two are meerschaum and are my babies. You
would love them too if you paid like $200+ apiece!!! Five are Nice
bryers all of Med/High Quality. One little Hit pipe I got off ebay for
$0.99 and has been used only once just to try it out. :-) I like an
aeromatic tobacco and LOVE a custom blend of 3 different tobaccos from
the local tinderbox. 2 parts captain spice, 2 parts vanilla black, and 1
part black raspberry. My God it's like smoking a sweet
candy............. Heavenly.......... I read about the NYC Dunhill thing
and am a little dissapionted, visiting it was part of my "100 things to
do before I get old and crusty" list. ;-( Well I guess thats it for my
introduction so heres to hoping this list keeps going strong! WEEE!

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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:43:22 -0600
From: Steve Beaty <???????????????>
Subject: time for another digest...


	...so here it is...

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #298
  2. Subject: Pipe stores
  3. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #297
  4. Subject: Changing Times
  5. Subject: pipe question
  6. Subject: [Rejected: not on accept list]
  7. Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #297
  8. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #297
  9. Subject: NYC
  10. Subject: pipe shops in NYC
  11. Subject: A Posting
  12. Subject: just a little post
  13. Subject: pipe smoking
  14. Subject: First Post
  15. Subject: time for another digest...
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